Postmortem: Jubilee has lost on Every Side

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-Opposition MPs get to keep their guns
-No opposition MP can be arrested
-Passport order will be quashed
-Media houses shutdown accomplished NOTHING
-One too many accidental heroes...Miguna,Kajwang,Babu
- It’s now official; Babu is deity,can’t be arrested
- NASWA has forgotten about their splits and focused on Jubilee
-Animosity towards RVGEMA is at an all time high

The list is endless

[patel]

We are still miles away from Canaan.  More work to be done. Judiciary was the only branch of the government that was somehow standing but after the event of the last few days I doubt this institution will be salvageable. 

[Dear Mami]

Like I said, Uhuru should not have listened to that hot head, the fool Matiangi. The wisest response to the swearing in would have been mocking and laughter then continue with business as usual. Why was he acting like a man threatened by an opposition with no guns or institutional power, just words and protests? I saw CNN asking questions along those lines. He should have listened to Grand Mullah, not Matiangi.

And now I hear Miguna has been deported from his own motherland. I'm shaking my head.

[patel]

Miguna will be more lethal peeing in from outside than when he was here. Now he has a golden opportunity to build the movement from outside and source for funds something that NRM did not have. The last thing that jubilee idiots need is Miguna on CNN, Fox, BBC, SKY news or Aljazeera whom I believe cannot wait to interview him. Miguna has reconciled himself to the fight ahead, he is a wounded bull but not broken, totally fearless. He should take a week off, rest and reset then from there media blitz and speech tour through North America, Europe then Africa. Give then hell General Miguna

[vooke]

Like I said, Uhuru should not have listened to that hot head, the fool Matiangi. The wisest response to the swearing in would have been mocking and laughter then continue with business as usual. Why was he acting like a man threatened by an opposition with no guns or institutional power, just words and protests? I saw CNN asking questions along those lines. He should have listened to Grand Mullah, not Matiangi.

And now I hear Miguna has been deported from his own motherland. I'm shaking my head.

I think you credit Matiangi with too much. His is just to implement. Just as all the dead negroes before him. The reaction was a political decision so it must have taken the ICC suspects and their highest advisors

[Fish Mooney]

Like I said, Uhuru should not have listened to that hot head, the fool Matiangi. The wisest response to the swearing in would have been mocking and laughter then continue with business as usual. Why was he acting like a man threatened by an opposition with no guns or institutional power, just words and protests? I saw CNN asking questions along those lines. He should have listened to Grand Mullah, not Matiangi.

And now I hear Miguna has been deported from his own motherland. I'm shaking my head.

I think you credit Matiangi with too much. His is just to implement. Just as all the dead negroes before him. The reaction was a political decision so it must have taken the ICC suspects and their highest advisors

I imagine Matiang'i is one of the highest advisors. He is very temperamental and the kind to please the boss. This deportation debacle looks like something Uhuru and Matiang'i would do over the more calculating Ruto's misgivings.

[Dear Mami]

But Robina, you guys have been cheering on these shenanigans in order to teach people a lesson for insulting the little king, Muigai. As if disrespecting a politician, even a president, even one with no claims of illegitimacy leveled at him, has become a crime.  And then you guys talk about democracy and use the law to protect this presidency. 

Uhuru is acting in a way that depicts him as a straight-up thug with no respect for the law rather than a respectable head of government. This stuff only makes a lot of people see him as capable of the monstrosities this government has already been accused of such as electoral fraud and threatening/using heads of institutions. Why would you cheer him on in that if you believed in his legitimacy? He has the state and international recognition and the support of a sizeable chunk of the population even if not the absolute majority and the opposition have no arms or intentions to acquire them. That would be enough to keep calm for most sane negroes but Uhuru is acting very weirdly instead. Maybe he got drunk again on the day of the swearing-in and hasn't sobered up since last week, who knows. I haven't seen him in public.

I can only think that this is an attempt, not to defeat opposition but to install a brazen dictatorship. That's the worst case scenario so I'm still hoping that Uhuru is just ego-stung and has temporarily lost his senses ie he's throwing a tantrum and will soon calm down.

[RV Pundit]

This is actually false. Jubilee have turned the tables - on NASA -and now NASA are negotiating - not for anything like NUSU mkate - but for police & executive to cease crackdown.

[vooke]

But Robina, you guys have been cheering on these shenanigans in order to teach people a lesson for insulting the little king, Muigai. As if disrespecting a politician, even a president, even one with no claims of illegitimacy leveled at him, has become a crime.  And then you guys talk about democracy and use the law to protect this presidency. 

Uhuru is acting in a way that depicts him as a straight-up thug with no respect for the law rather than a respectable head of government. This stuff only makes a lot of people see him as capable of the monstrosities this government has already been accused of such as electoral fraud and threatening/using heads of institutions. Why would you cheer him on in that if you believed in his legitimacy? He has the state and international recognition and the support of a sizeable chunk of the population even if not the absolute majority and the opposition have no arms or intentions to acquire them. That would be enough to keep calm for most sane negroes but Uhuru is acting very weirdly instead. Maybe he got drunk again on the day of the swearing-in and hasn't sobered up since last week, who knows. I haven't seen him in public.

I can only think that this is an attempt, not to defeat opposition but to install a brazen dictatorship. That's the worst case scenario so I'm still hoping that Uhuru is just ego-stung and has temporarily lost his senses ie he's throwing a tantrum and will soon calm down.

Like Pundito said else where,
All governments have gray areas where they straddle the fine line between executive suit types and millitary animals.

Let's say calling Uhuru dictator is so last century just as saying Babu is power hungry. He did what he had to do when push came to shove. If whatever he is doing is bad for him, Babu supporters should be cheering him self-destruct

[Dear Mami]

But Robina, you guys have been cheering on these shenanigans in order to teach people a lesson for insulting the little king, Muigai. As if disrespecting a politician, even a president, even one with no claims of illegitimacy leveled at him, has become a crime.  And then you guys talk about democracy and use the law to protect this presidency. 

Uhuru is acting in a way that depicts him as a straight-up thug with no respect for the law rather than a respectable head of government. This stuff only makes a lot of people see him as capable of the monstrosities this government has already been accused of such as electoral fraud and threatening/using heads of institutions. Why would you cheer him on in that if you believed in his legitimacy? He has the state and international recognition and the support of a sizeable chunk of the population even if not the absolute majority and the opposition have no arms or intentions to acquire them. That would be enough to keep calm for most sane negroes but Uhuru is acting very weirdly instead. Maybe he got drunk again on the day of the swearing-in and hasn't sobered up since last week, who knows. I haven't seen him in public.

I can only think that this is an attempt, not to defeat opposition but to install a brazen dictatorship. That's the worst case scenario so I'm still hoping that Uhuru is just ego-stung and has temporarily lost his senses ie he's throwing a tantrum and will soon calm down.

Like Pundito said else where,
All governments have gray areas where they straddle the fine line between executive suit types and millitary animals.

Let's say calling Uhuru dictator is so last century just as saying Babu is power hungry. He did what he had to do when push came to shove. If whatever he is doing is bad for him, Babu supporters should be cheering him self-destruct

That's frankly B.S.: What exactly forced Uhuru's hand here? He has the state, international recognition, and the support of a good chunk of the population even if he's hated by the rest. The opposition have literally nothing but words and demos. Explain again your notion of things being forced on him to do what he "must". This is just your spin as usual, to make Muigai's clumsiness seem well thought out and calculated rather than dumb. You're apologizing for the dude.

[Dear Mami]

This is actually false. Jubilee have turned the tables - on NASA -and now NASA are negotiating - not for anything like NUSU mkate - but for police & executive to cease crackdown.

They had successfully ignored these alleged calls for nusu-mkate, no? What exactly have they gained now as opposed to continuing on that route? All the opposition had managed was a peaceful non-binding ceremony many scoffed at. What was the point of giving them a cause?

[RV Pundit]

GoK doesn't exist to look nice. If this was not nipped in the bud with the ongoing crackdown the opposition would have become more and more embolden.

They had successfully ignored these alleged calls for nusu-mkate, no? What exactly have they gained now as opposed to continuing on that route? All the opposition had managed was a peaceful non-binding ceremony many scoffed at. What was the point of giving them a cause?

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

But Robina, you guys have been cheering on these shenanigans in order to teach people a lesson for insulting the little king, Muigai. As if disrespecting a politician, even a president, even one with no claims of illegitimacy leveled at him, has become a crime.  And then you guys talk about democracy and use the law to protect this presidency. 

Uhuru is acting in a way that depicts him as a straight-up thug with no respect for the law rather than a respectable head of government. This stuff only makes a lot of people see him as capable of the monstrosities this government has already been accused of such as electoral fraud and threatening/using heads of institutions. Why would you cheer him on in that if you believed in his legitimacy? He has the state and international recognition and the support of a sizeable chunk of the population even if not the absolute majority and the opposition have no arms or intentions to acquire them. That would be enough to keep calm for most sane negroes but Uhuru is acting very weirdly instead. Maybe he got drunk again on the day of the swearing-in and hasn't sobered up since last week, who knows. I haven't seen him in public.

I can only think that this is an attempt, not to defeat opposition but to install a brazen dictatorship. That's the worst case scenario so I'm still hoping that Uhuru is just ego-stung and has temporarily lost his senses ie he's throwing a tantrum and will soon calm down.

The jubilant mobster and his minions get a high from impunity.  This is a crucial element of their continued misrule. 

What Raila did, was impunity squared in their mind and that of most wananchi.  The jubilant feels one upped and is merely trying to reclaim his spot at the top of the impunity totem pole. 

The problem is, without taking on Raila head on, the jubilant feels that he has lost that battle for impunity.  The result?  Ever more brazen attempts to demonstrate that he “too” is above the law.

The blunder? They should have ignored the swearing in.  By going after the role players, they merely accentuated their impotence against the main culprit.

[vooke]

But Robina, you guys have been cheering on these shenanigans in order to teach people a lesson for insulting the little king, Muigai. As if disrespecting a politician, even a president, even one with no claims of illegitimacy leveled at him, has become a crime.  And then you guys talk about democracy and use the law to protect this presidency. 

Uhuru is acting in a way that depicts him as a straight-up thug with no respect for the law rather than a respectable head of government. This stuff only makes a lot of people see him as capable of the monstrosities this government has already been accused of such as electoral fraud and threatening/using heads of institutions. Why would you cheer him on in that if you believed in his legitimacy? He has the state and international recognition and the support of a sizeable chunk of the population even if not the absolute majority and the opposition have no arms or intentions to acquire them. That would be enough to keep calm for most sane negroes but Uhuru is acting very weirdly instead. Maybe he got drunk again on the day of the swearing-in and hasn't sobered up since last week, who knows. I haven't seen him in public.

I can only think that this is an attempt, not to defeat opposition but to install a brazen dictatorship. That's the worst case scenario so I'm still hoping that Uhuru is just ego-stung and has temporarily lost his senses ie he's throwing a tantrum and will soon calm down.

Like Pundito said else where,
All governments have gray areas where they straddle the fine line between executive suit types and millitary animals.

Let's say calling Uhuru dictator is so last century just as saying Babu is power hungry. He did what he had to do when push came to shove. If whatever he is doing is bad for him, Babu supporters should be cheering him self-destruct

That's frankly B.S.: What exactly forced Uhuru's hand here? He has the state, international recognition, and the support of a good chunk of the population even if he's hated by the rest. The opposition have literally nothing but words and demos. Explain again your notion of things being forced on him to do what he "must". This is just your spin as usual, to make Muigai's clumsiness seem well thought out and calculated rather than dumb. You're apologizing for the dude.

He wants opposition to remain small so they can more easily beat them in 2022. You can't see that,ama you are just teasing me?

[vooke]

But Robina, you guys have been cheering on these shenanigans in order to teach people a lesson for insulting the little king, Muigai. As if disrespecting a politician, even a president, even one with no claims of illegitimacy leveled at him, has become a crime.  And then you guys talk about democracy and use the law to protect this presidency. 

Uhuru is acting in a way that depicts him as a straight-up thug with no respect for the law rather than a respectable head of government. This stuff only makes a lot of people see him as capable of the monstrosities this government has already been accused of such as electoral fraud and threatening/using heads of institutions. Why would you cheer him on in that if you believed in his legitimacy? He has the state and international recognition and the support of a sizeable chunk of the population even if not the absolute majority and the opposition have no arms or intentions to acquire them. That would be enough to keep calm for most sane negroes but Uhuru is acting very weirdly instead. Maybe he got drunk again on the day of the swearing-in and hasn't sobered up since last week, who knows. I haven't seen him in public.

I can only think that this is an attempt, not to defeat opposition but to install a brazen dictatorship. That's the worst case scenario so I'm still hoping that Uhuru is just ego-stung and has temporarily lost his senses ie he's throwing a tantrum and will soon calm down.

The jubilant mobster and his minions get a high from impunity.  This is a crucial element of their continued misrule. 

What Raila did, was impunity squared in their mind and that of most wananchi.  The jubilant feels one upped and is merely trying to reclaim his spot at the top of the impunity totem pole. 

The problem is, without taking on Raila head on, the jubilant feels that he has lost that battle for impunity.  The result?  Ever more brazen attempts to demonstrate that he “too” is above the law.

The blunder? They should have ignored the swearing in.  By going after the role players, they merely accentuated their impotence against the main culprit.

Uhuru's fear was Babu antics buying him more votes. You have to remember that the contentious results put him ahead by a mere 9%. That's a margin that can be easily wrecked. Uhunye knows this and it scares him endlessly.

Illegality,rule if law and other shitty factors are just a cover

[Dear Mami]

That's frankly B.S.: What exactly forced Uhuru's hand here? He has the state, international recognition, and the support of a good chunk of the population even if he's hated by the rest. The opposition have literally nothing but words and demos. Explain again your notion of things being forced on him to do what he "must". This is just your spin as usual, to make Muigai's clumsiness seem well thought out and calculated rather than dumb. You're apologizing for the dude.

He wants opposition to remain small so they can more easily beat them in 2022. You can't see that,ama you are just teasing me?

But you were making the argument that his hand had been forced by circumstances. This now is an argument that it's Machiavellian move instead. All this seems to be about making Kamwana seem clever rather than reactionary.

[Kichwa]

Kadame, you gave Jubilee free advise on how to deal with this manenos but I am glad they ignored you. We in the opposition now have so much to work with in undermining this illegal government.

The court must now send a clear message to these despots. Judge Kimaru must order the government to 1) revoke it’s illegal deportation order and return Miguna to Kenya at its own cost- unless Miguna declines. 2) compensate Miguna immediately for the repairs of damages made to his house by the rogue police who illegally detained him and forcibly removed him from his country of birth illegally. 3) impose a fine of ksh. 2 million a day until the government  comply with these orders beginning 7 days from today of which Ksh 1 million to Miguna and ksh 1 million to the victims of police brutality. The court must now stop issuing empty statements and orders that are easy to ignore but realize that they are dealing with thugs.  The orders from now henceforth must  bite if the court want to regain its constitutional position as an equal branch of this government. Maraga's statements have set the tone and the judges need to be bold.

That's frankly B.S.: What exactly forced Uhuru's hand here? He has the state, international recognition, and the support of a good chunk of the population even if he's hated by the rest. The opposition have literally nothing but words and demos. Explain again your notion of things being forced on him to do what he "must". This is just your spin as usual, to make Muigai's clumsiness seem well thought out and calculated rather than dumb. You're apologizing for the dude.

He wants opposition to remain small so they can more easily beat them in 2022. You can't see that,ama you are just teasing me?

But you were making the argument that his hand had been forced by circumstances. This now is an argument that it's Machiavellian move instead. All this seems to be about making Kamwana seem clever rather than reactionary.

[Fish Mooney]

Kichwa how would the courts enforce those orders? Jail the IG? In a standoff the executive wins. For one parliament would not lift a finger to aid the courts. In the end they are at the mercy of the executive.

[vooke]

That's frankly B.S.: What exactly forced Uhuru's hand here? He has the state, international recognition, and the support of a good chunk of the population even if he's hated by the rest. The opposition have literally nothing but words and demos. Explain again your notion of things being forced on him to do what he "must". This is just your spin as usual, to make Muigai's clumsiness seem well thought out and calculated rather than dumb. You're apologizing for the dude.

He wants opposition to remain small so they can more easily beat them in 2022. You can't see that,ama you are just teasing me?

But you were making the argument that his hand had been forced by circumstances. This now is an argument that it's Machiavellian move instead. All this seems to be about making Kamwana seem clever rather than reactionary.

Maybe I was not clear enough,but I think Uhunye has always had this inferiority Complex since 2013 probably due to either he rigged his way in or he barely trounced Babu who was severely financially challenged and much older. So real fear of Babu.

August 2017 results were disappointing. For an incumbent to ‘win’ that narrowly despite 4yrs of handling state coffers is an indictment. Then he loses even that little joy at SCOK. And Babu pulls out.

Then you have an empty Kasarani vs a modestly packed Uhuru Park. That’s an insult right there.

So cutting Babu to size, or arresting his growth , are his primary drivers.

I’m still not persuaded there’s anyone within Jubilee who saw immediate threat from Uhuru Park,especially after the other girls no show and a watered down oath. What they couldn’t miss was how insanely innovative and effective that mock ceremony was.

[Fish Mooney]

I wonder if the swearing-in was forced by circumstances. What was the pressing need?