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H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« on: November 29, 2017, 01:10:57 AM »
At the height of his ICC "issues" Uhuru led from the front, as one would say, on the story of how Africa's "real problem" is that it has been held back by neo-colonial wazungus, but enough was enough.  Africa was capable of solving its own problems, people were turning East, etc.   Threats from the AU: "Meet our demands for this or that reform, or we all withdraw; and even though you folks fund most of  of the AU's budget, and we constantly have to beg for it, this time we are serious!".   There was some rah-rah on financial independence etc., and to start things rolling, GoK put $1 million on the table.  Pap!  Other countries apparently had the faith but not the money to blow on this sort of this independence stuff.  So that was that.  The Uhuru and his sidekick escaped the noose.   The "endless problems" with the ICC bazungu also disappeared, as did the corresponding threats; and African "leaders" went back to the usual business of sending their "unfriendlies" to the court.   Coverage of the ICC, including its ASP, is back to to the near-zero that it used to be.   And not just in Kenya.

All of that probably has nothing to do with anything, but, for some reason, it was the first thing that came to mind when I read of what His Excellency had to say on The Great Day:

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Uhuru-unveils-grand-plan-to-revive-economy/1056-4206902-ygti3wz/index.html

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The President’s speech indicated that he is alive to the fact that Kenya, and Africa at large, have largely used politics for selfish gains at the expense of the countries’ prosperity.

POLITICS

He was more specific when he said: “No one eats politics.”

“For the last 50 years, we have watched as the Asian economies have risen to wealth, while much of Africa has stagnated.

"The difference is that they used politics to create vibrant economies for their people.

"In our case, we have pursued politics as an end in itself, rather than as a means to economic prosperity. This must end.”

Sober stuff.  Can't argue with that.   H.E. is in fact well placed to comment on how "we" have f**ked up (and are still f**king up).    I have looked at much of GoK's stuff---including Vision 2030 3020---and it's not easy to see if anything has been learned from the "Asian economies" that  "have risen to wealth" and are now the new point of comparison.  Maybe all that is required is a "vision".

H.E. then showed his funny side: Stern Warning No. 673 issued to corrupt and lazy civil servants.   

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And without fearing any political implications in his last term, the President warned public servants that it will not be “business as usual”.

“I will not allow faceless bureaucrats and functionaries to deny the public the quality of service they deserve from their government,” he cautioned.

CORRUPTION

During the occasion, President Kenyatta talked tough against corruption.

Smart.   This would not have been the day for "Aaiieee! Ngai! Nitafanya nini!".

And so on, and so forth.   Great stuff.   Funny stuff.   Now, as H.E. Mwai Kibaki would say, "kazi iendelee". 

Kalongolongo.   What a game.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 01:42:13 AM »
Moonki,
Thanks for the summary. I am so against Uhuru and  his friends akina waiguru that I cannot say I have ever read any of his speech. To me Uhuru is joke a bad joke being played on Kenyans

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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 03:54:18 AM »
Moonki,
Thanks for the summary. I am so against Uhuru and  his friends akina waiguru that I cannot say I have ever read any of his speech. To me Uhuru is joke a bad joke being played on Kenyans

Don't be too tough on the guy.   From what I can tell, Uhuru used to be an easy-going guy, more concerned with the bottle and the weed than with anything else.    The kind of guy you would want as a wingman when out looking for easy ding-dong.    What he seems to lack is the strength of character that would have helped him negotiate his own path amidst the Machiavelli (for whom he was a "project"), the Junior Machiavelli (that is now his sidekick) the Dragon Lady of a mother, and the Hard Men (Michuki etc.).   

What is the "issue" with Waiguru?   That she is a thief?   It's a country of thieves and would-be thieves.   From top to bottom.    Thrown out of one office for theft, elected to an even higher office by our compatriots; the only joke on Kenyans is the ones they eagerly welcome.   There are those who don't like her on the basis that his His Excellency has supposedly been tapping a nice, soft one on the side. I see no problem there.   The stresses of high office are what they are, and even in our times a Leader of The Free World has been known to  relax with a bit of  the nice and soft on the side ...  some initial brouhaha, but with all-around understanding at the end.   

The most important thing about Ms. Waiguru is that, given the way our political systems work, she is pretty good 2022-VP-candidate on that side.

Anyways ...

I consider that part of Uhuru's speech to be significant, even though I consider the entire speech to be mostly meaningless and useless and whatever-less for any Kenyan who expects any real change in the next five years.   What is significant about that bit is that we actually have a "prominent" African "leader"---don't forget "middle class", "economic powerhouse of East Africa", "Silicon Savanah", etc.----get up and say "it's just that we are perpetual victims of neo-colonialism, and the Asians keep getting oodles of FDI and whatever; it's time to look at reality and admit that we have f**ked up".    It's like those rehab programs or whatever: the first step---and it's a huge one---is just getting the dope-fiend to admit that he has some control over his choices, and he just can't keep saying that he must snort or shoot up until the world stops doing whatever to him.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 06:32:52 AM »
The usual nonsense. There is lots of emperical data out there showing Uhuru has been nothing but a transformative leader. He has done great.

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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 09:19:12 AM »
You and I are also responsible for Kenya's dismal performance by our little or missing input. Why should Uhuru be more exceptional than we? If you're starkly aware of the flaws you're best placed to fix them. It's not just Uhuru's or Raila's job.

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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 09:32:25 AM »
You and I are also responsible for Kenya's dismal performance by our little or missing input. Why should Uhuru be more exceptional than we? If you're starkly aware of the flaws you're best placed to fix them. It's not just Uhuru's or Raila's job.

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I couldn't agree more. How come there're no serious companies being started by us africans? All the pieces are in place, and by the very fact that we're under developed it means there are more opportunities to be exploited. We have this propensity to blame everybody else but us.

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 09:52:06 AM »
Haha hk don't ask. Apparently the reason for lack of serious enterprise is Uhuru. It's possible some industrialists here have been denied licenses to setup Manufacturing 2.0. The more the problems the bigger the opportunity.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 11:49:52 AM »
Haha hk don't ask. Apparently the reason for lack of serious enterprise is Uhuru. It's possible some industrialists here have been denied licenses to setup Manufacturing 2.0. The more the problems the bigger the opportunity.

Very true:

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Ethiopia is the world’s fastest growing economy.

If you doubt that, watch CNN’s recent One Square Meter Report which highlighted this second-most populous nation in Africa whose economy has consistently grown by double digits over the past 10 years.

Several industrial parks have been built and more are coming up. There are four operational industrial parks, three of which are privately owned.

They include the Eastern Industrial Zone at Dukem, the Lebu Industrial Zone which is owned by Huajian Group, and Modjo Industrial Zone owned by George Shoe. A government-owned industrial park, Bole Lemi Industrial Zone is also coming up.

Ethiopians are taking advantage of Africa’s population dividend to target investors moving out of China, and providing a soft landing for them in Ethiopia.

Their flagship Ethiopia Industrial Park, which would put our Konza to shame, is coming up, connected to Addis with the ultra-modern Modjo-Hawassa Expressway.
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Construction of the 700-acre Hawassa Industrial Park started last year. It will accommodate 35 factory sheds and 19 exhibition halls, food courts, dormitories, and other required facilities in the first phase. The country aims to become Africa’s hub for manufacturing.

Ethiopia has identified textile, agro-processing, leather, light electronic manufacturing and other labour intensive industries to absorb the massive number of youths who are unemployed.

The Chinese have financed and built most of these industrial parks. Whenever they encounter African indiscipline, they instill the discipline themselves through rather harsh measures.

Consequently, Ethiopia is now Africa’s leading exporter of boots to US under the African Growth Opportunity Act (AGOA).

It is not just industrial parks they are building.  At the Africa Economic Commission for Africa experts meeting, Arkkebe Oqubay, Minister and Special Advisor to the Prime Minister, explained the source of their success.

“We realised that of the 1 million university students, more than 80 per cent were in arts. We headed to Germany and sought cooperation in higher learning.  Today more than 80 per cent of the students are into science and technology,” he said. “We linked our learning institutions to industry.  We still have 400 German educationists transplanting their system into Ethiopia.”

In addition to more than 40 public universities, Ethiopia has also created and equipped several technical institutions.

The import of all this is that Ethiopia is not just offering highly educated cheap labour but also fast improving power supply, transport and other infrastructure.

While we are still celebrating the Thika Superhighway, they were building expressways into the country’s interior.  Ethiopia also built the first light rail system in East Africa and is now leveraging the technology transfer to build a rail network throughout the country and possibly into neighbouring countries.

In contrast, we have left it to the Chinese to complete our Standard Gauge Railway and stay on to provide maintenance services.

MINISTER 'ABRUPTLY TRAVELLED'

They are also likely to be invited to build future SGR extensions. Nobody is seriously concerned about Chinese technology transfer in Kenya.

The indiscipline and the lack of patriotism of our civil engineering firms, coupled with government inability or unwillingness to properly supervise them, means that the Chinese will be building public works in Kenya long after Ethiopians become really good at it.

Who knows, in future the Ethiopians might even replace the Chinese as builders of Kenyan public works!

Investors in Ethiopia are happy that the government is taking the initiative and delivering on promises.  They are flocking in, and the many hotel brands that have mushroomed all over Addis Ababa are not disappointed.

During the reception at the Radisson Blue, I meet a group of European investors and this is what they told me. Initially, their desire was to set up in Kenya and grow their business to other parts of Africa.

They travelled to Nairobi.  Through a local contact, they tried to set up an appointment with the Minister but after several days in Nairobi, the appointment never materialised. 

They went back to Europe, saying they would try to get a firm appointment before coming back to Kenya. Eventually, the appointment was set up and they travelled to Kenya.

On reaching the Ministry, they were told that the Minister would not be in. He had abruptly travelled, without sending an apology to his guests.

A Director at the Ministry met with them and since he could not commit in anything, they achieved nothing.

But they had one last hope. That evening, they were to meet with a county Governor for dinner.  The Governor showed up late with his wife, giving excuses that they had had a long drive and the traffic was unbearable.

SPEED OF ACTION

As they talked, the county Governor’s wife interrupted to tell the investors that she was setting up a children’s home and she would need Sh10 million donation to set off the project.

By this time they had made up their mind that Kenya was not going to be the place to invest. They politely paid for the dinner and left without mentioning the reason why they wanted to talk to the Governor.

To their surprise, the Governor did not ask what the purpose of their meeting was. With their Kenyan link, they decided to give Ethiopia a try.

One phone call and an Ethiopian official on a Tuesday morning secured an appointment the next day, Wednesday. They travelled to Ethiopia and were met at the Airport.

To their amazement, they were driven to the prestigious Sheraton Hotel by a retinue of vehicles led by a police car with a siren.  In the evening, the Foreign Ministry had arranged a dinner with two other Ministers.

During the dinner, they were asked what kind of investment they were interested in. After explaining what they wanted, they were told that the following morning they would meet with the Governor of Oromia.

After breakfast on Thursday, they were driven to Oromia. The Governor was waiting for them. They were promptly shown three sites where they could put up the investment.

By 1pm, they had signed up a memorandum of understanding. Slightly more than three months later, they are through with the initial infrastructure on the ground.

With this speed of action, it does not surprise me why the Ethiopians are re-writing the story of economic transformation.

Kenyans may argue that they are a better democracy than Ethiopia, but that won’t stop a bloody revolution by dissatisfied, unemployed, hopeless youth who discover their leaders have grabbed everything including the entire Export Processing Zones.

FALLING THROUGH OUR FINGERS

Let us not just simplify corruption to mean stolen money.  We must expand the definition of corruption to also include impeding progress.

Corruption must be understood by all its synonyms which, as per the Merrian-Webster Dictionary include: “alteration, falsification, doctoring, manipulation, manipulating, fudging, adulteration, debasement, degradation, abuse, subversion, misrepresentation, misapplication, breakdown, decay, decomposition, festering, putrefaction, putrescence, rot, spoilage.”

Fellow Kenyans, this is not the Ethiopia of 30 years where gun-toting youths met you at Bole International Airport. This is a country of patriots who know exactly where they want to take their country – and are succeeding.

Ethiopian leaders are not shooting themselves in the foot. They are thinking about their poor people, not just about lining their pockets. They appear to understand that the fate of all Ethiopians is inextricably intertwined – the fate of leaders and the led.

Sadly, this does not appear to be the case in Kenya. Until we put our national interests ahead of our own selfishness, we may never get near where Ethiopia has reached.

Our preoccupation with land is our undoing. The pride that Kenya is the largest economy in the region is fading fast. It is not the size of the economy that matters but rather how many of our people are escaping poverty and are benefitting from this size.

We must create employment for our youth and avoid the nasty consequences of our inaction, which will likely follow if we do not act to avert the creeping discontent.

Far too many opportunities are falling through our fingers. These opportunities come along only but once.  We may never see them again.

ROOM FOR RISK-TAKING

We must foster good leadership devoid of threats, leverage our democracy to consult with the people, act within reasonable time and mind the national interest.

Above all, we must live by the rule of law. Selective justice, mob justice and failure to take personal responsibility for our actions, which happens to be the trademark of our culture, undermine the rule of law.

We must create room for risk taking that is necessary to propel our country to greater heights.  Many Kenyans with or without leadership would die for their country but there must be political will to drive Kenya as a team.

Ethiopian leadership, through a combination of credibility born out of honest, patriotic, strategic leadership and high-handedness against dissenters, has galvanised the country with one specific objective – Prosperity.

The question we must ask ourselves, all of us, whether we are in government or the opposition, is: do ordinary Kenyans see us as honest people who are working for and minding their welfare or do they see as us all as competing, directionless monsters?

Do we really love Kenya? Do we love fellow Kenyans? Do our actions and utterances show this love for all Kenyans, regardless of ethnic origin?

John F. Kennedy said, “Economic growth without social progress lets the great majority of people remain in poverty, while a privileged few reap the benefits of rising abundance.”

As we take stock of economic growth, let us also ensure there is social progress. The measure of success in this modern day is how inclusive our economic growth is.

I could personally write a book on the trials and tribulations I first went through when I started my business in .ke, ranging from corrupt KRA staff, city council, cops (I started with the importation of containers of 2nd hand spares in the days when the police had to verify the contents when the container was opened. I still had to part with 30k monthly to the OCS.), etc. It was a very steep learning curve.

I'm not the only one, as can be read in this infamous thread: Have you ever failed flat in business?

For those not inclined to read through the whole posting, this one comment from the thread sums it up very nicely:

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Nabwire I hear you.

The turnover rate of my friends who came back is 99%. I'm the only one who's stayed. The rest, just got tired of the nonsense in this country.

Why is it that its easier for me to borrow in a bank in a country that calls me a nigger but entering a banking hall in my own country, I have to leave my children's names and numbers at the door?

Incredible taxation from central and local gov't. Not taxes that you pay but what they come up with when they visit your office.

Employees who think that their work is to sit down on their computers and comment upus on wazua. I was once told that my hiring skills were bad, so I decided to hire in India. No problems there at all.

I'll speak about my industry which shall remain nameless.

Most of the companies offering these services are just plain charlatans. I was once hounded for weeks ati because I was to give someone sijui 30% for a contract. Kubaff...I had not even sought the contract, they had sought me. I told them to go to hell.....on foot.

I have been asked for proposals....Another con game. You send your proposal, they tell their buddy what to quote on theirs. So I don't send proposals anymore.

I have been given a contract then it suddenly changes on pay date. For those ones I just walk out the door. I still have some guy trolling me on FB because of that. He couldn't believe someone could walk away from such a sum.

I don't believe there are good stories on entreprenuership in Kenya simply because the system is not made that way. The system is simple.

1. You bribe a journalist with 10k to write about how rich you are
2. You get calls from gate keepers who ask you for a bribe to meet the guy
3. The guy agrees, you then have to bribe them to get the contract signed
4. Then you have to bribe them to get your payment processed
5. Then you have to take them out to celebrate.

This is upus. Especially in my industry where it would be cheaper just to spam you and get it over with.

That is why a lot of Kenyans would rather get paid a paycheck than go forward with a business idea. See the story of Able wire. Super idea that can change Africa and the world, yet he's expected to bribe his way into super stardom

Pole sana Nabwire. I understand.

As for the topic OP, yes I've fallen flat. Couldn't even pay my rent. Food shida...

I'm only breathing when I realised that Kenya sio mama ao baba yangu...Looked outside the borders and somehow, others value effort. Hapa ni ukora tu.

I've experienced all that. At the end of it all, I had no other option than to adapt to the reality so as to survive.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 03:23:44 PM »
The usual nonsense. There is lots of emperical data out there showing Uhuru has been nothing but a transformative leader. He has done great.

Which part is the nonsense?   The part where Uhuru said this?

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“For the last 50 years, we have watched as the Asian economies have risen to wealth, while much of Africa has stagnated.

"The difference is that they used politics to create vibrant economies for their people.

"In our case, we have pursued politics as an end in itself, rather than as a means to economic prosperity. This must end.”


That seems to be new on his part.   It also seems to be a plain statement of fact; so I wouldn't call it nonsense. 

This, however, was definitely his usual nonsense:

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And without fearing any political implications in his last term, the President warned public servants that it will not be “business as usual”.

“I will not allow faceless bureaucrats and functionaries to deny the public the quality of service they deserve from their government,” he cautioned.


We have had it 100 times without anything happening.

You and empirical data?    That pretty funny!
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 03:28:16 PM »
Why should Uhuru be more exceptional than we?

Because he is  the president and the head the government?   

Because the political power of his position gives him a lot more say in what he complained about, i.e.  the use of "politics for selfish gains at the expense of the country's  prosperity"?

Because he actually has the powers to do what he says, as in "I will not allow faceless bureaucrats and functionaries to deny the public [we] the quality of service they deserve from their government"?     

Should I go on and add to the list, or does that give some idea?
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2017, 04:12:04 PM »
Empedocles,

Kenya has lots of problem especially about harassment from COTU, council, police kra etc. But mostly it depends on the industry. However most of the enterprises being started are just copy and paste stuff. There's hardly any disruption in most sectors which points to low level of innovation.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2017, 04:36:10 PM »
Empedocles,

Kenya has lots of problem especially about harassment from COTU, council, police kra etc. But mostly it depends on the industry. However most of the enterprises being started are just copy and paste stuff. There's hardly any disruption in most sectors which points to low level of innovation.

That could be so.  How do you think the levels of innovation in a place like Kenya can be improved?   It is interesting to look at how East Asian countries that started with plenty of copy-and-paste have gone on to do very well.   In 1963, South Korea was a poor agrarian economy; last year it was No. 1 in the world on the 2016 Bloomberg Innovation Index.    What would you say has been key in their success?   Perhaps we can learn from such.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2017, 05:06:24 PM »
Why should Uhuru be more exceptional than we?

Because he is  the president and the head the government?   

Because the political power of his position gives him a lot more say in what he complained about, i.e.  the use of "politics for selfish gains at the expense of the country's  prosperity"?

Because he actually has the powers to do what he says, as in "I will not allow faceless bureaucrats and functionaries to deny the public [we] the quality of service they deserve from their government"?     

Should I go on and add to the list, or does that give some idea?


Kamwana's job is pomp and pageantry and ruling.  Why would anyone expect him to fix shit? :-\
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2017, 05:14:17 PM »
Empedocles,

Kenya has lots of problem especially about harassment from COTU, council, police kra etc. But mostly it depends on the industry. However most of the enterprises being started are just copy and paste stuff. There's hardly any disruption in most sectors which points to low level of innovation.

That could be so.  How do you think the levels of innovation in a place like Kenya can be improved?   It is interesting to look at how East Asian countries that started with plenty of copy-and-paste have gone on to do very well.   In 1963, South Korea was a poor agrarian economy; last year it was No. 1 in the world on the 2016 Bloomberg Innovation Index.    What would you say has been key in their success?   Perhaps we can learn from such.

Kenya has no innovation culture. How many patents are filed every year? Very few going by KIPI records. How much do companies spend on R&D? Very little indeed. Any patent laws?

Most of the funds - like Spark, or even Uwezo - are for typical investments - the "copycats". Innovation means solving real problems - like drought, internet access, education, etc. I see BRCK as one of those - manufacturing low-cost, off-grid hifi gadgets for internet access. https://www.brck.com/

M-Kopa, OneAcre Fund, SunCulture are good examples of innovative companies. A new M-pesa agent or Chicken Inn on the other hand not so much.

There was an auto maker in the news sometime. Mobius? That's good if they can hack the economics and the politics.

To inculcate innovation one area is our education. The talk of half-baked or misskilled graduates is real. We have had overhauls and reviews in basic education but not college. Besides the traditional college we need more Andela type of initiatives. I wish the likes of Udacity and U2 would invest in Kenya and East Africa. I know it's a stretch to tell people dying to make it to Kenyan university that it's probably the wrong place to go at this juncture.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2017, 05:18:06 PM »
Why should Uhuru be more exceptional than we?

Because he is  the president and the head the government?   

Because the political power of his position gives him a lot more say in what he complained about, i.e.  the use of "politics for selfish gains at the expense of the country's  prosperity"?

Because he actually has the powers to do what he says, as in "I will not allow faceless bureaucrats and functionaries to deny the public [we] the quality of service they deserve from their government"?     

Should I go on and add to the list, or does that give some idea?


Kamwana's job is pomp and pageantry and ruling.  Why would anyone expect him to fix shit? :-\

I expect so much better than he has done. I'm not his fan. What have you done as a private citizen? That's a very pertinent question few will answer with pride. Our private sector is dead as a dodo because of an absence of talent and enterprise. Much more than political failures.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2017, 05:30:03 PM »
Empedocles,

Kenya has lots of problem especially about harassment from COTU, council, police kra etc. But mostly it depends on the industry. However most of the enterprises being started are just copy and paste stuff. There's hardly any disruption in most sectors which points to low level of innovation.

That could be so.  How do you think the levels of innovation in a place like Kenya can be improved?   It is interesting to look at how East Asian countries that started with plenty of copy-and-paste have gone on to do very well.   In 1963, South Korea was a poor agrarian economy; last year it was No. 1 in the world on the 2016 Bloomberg Innovation Index.    What would you say has been key in their success?   Perhaps we can learn from such.
I think the key is productivity, if its farming to produce more. productivity hasn't kept up with improvements in things like child mortality rates. Copying and pasting from different countries is ok, I meant the me too businesses where kenyans just copying each other because those companies are easily replicated.

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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2017, 06:01:34 PM »
Of course you're nitpicker who never see the big picture however much we try. Facts are right there in Uhuru speech. For example, Uhuru has introduced business reforms that are well captured by WB's "Ease of Doing business" that has seen Kenya jump 60 positions - to position 80 -- top 3 in Africa - and has been on most improved WB list the last 2-3 years. In short Uhuru has made it easy for anyone to start and do business in kenya  - so if somebody has no started or prospered in business - Uhuru is less to blame now than when he became pork.

Uhuru is promising to continue on that reform agenda - and put kenya in top 50 - or well the best place to do business in Africa.That and many other transformations is the reason some of us queued and vote Uhuru twice on 8th August and 26th October.

Now if after Kenya has become the easiest place to do business - naturally you expect more business to flourish, fdi to increase and more economic development. That just don't happen. UhuRuto have made it happen! something Kibadinga never did it.

You and empirical data?    That pretty funny!

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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2017, 06:26:05 PM »
Here is 530Km lapsset highway that Uhuru may deliver and you'll still blame him for everything!
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/530-km-Lapsset-highway-construction-starts-next-year/3946234-4207938-cq0pbp/index.html

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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2017, 06:33:03 PM »
Kenya has no innovation culture. How many patents are filed every year? Very few going by KIPI records. How much do companies spend on R&D? Very little indeed. Any patent laws?

South Korea was once in that same spot.    Companies investing in R & D there now account for most of the R & D, but that was not always so.     I have a paper on innovation in their R & D, and it gives us some idea of what happened:

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Science, technology, and innovation have been cited as one of the key factors behind
the economic success of the Republic of Korea.

...
In the 1960s Korea was barren in the fields of science and technology.
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In the early stage of development, the government’s economic development projects were the major force driving R&D and innovation in Korea.
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 To help industries to adopt new technologies, the government created govern-
ment R&D institutes in the fields of heavy machinery and chemicals, such as the
Korea Institute of Machinery and Metals, the Electronics and Telecommunications
Research Institute, the Korea Research Institute of Chemical Technology, the Korea
Research Institute of Standards and Science, the Korea Institute for Energy
Research, and the Korea Ocean R&D Institute. These institutes worked with private
industries to build a technological foundation for industrial development.
...
While promoting technological learning for industrialization, the government also
made efforts to build a base for science and technology (S&T) development during
this period. The Science and Technology Promotion Act and the Science Education
Act were passed in 1967 as a legal base for S&T development. The Korea Institute
of Science and Technology (KIST) was established in 1966, followed in 1967 by the
Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST), the central government agency respon-
sible for S&T policy. In 1970 the government enacted the Korea Advanced Institute
of Sciences Act, which created the basis for the Korea Advanced Institute of Sciences
(KAIS; currently KAIST). KIST was the first organization dedicated strictly to R&D
in Korea
...
In 1974 the government started construction of the Daeduk Science Town,
where many public and private R&D institutes, including the government research
and development institutes, are now clustered.
...
How Korea Has Been Able to Build Up Indigenous R&D Capability:
The government responded to the changes in the technology environment by
launching the National R&D Program in 1982 and taking various policy measures
to promote and facilitate private R&D activities, including tax incentives, financial
assistance, procurement, and other promotional actions.
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After 1980, it [the government] shifted toward nurturing indigenous R&D capability and, at
the same time, promoting and facilitating private industrial R&D.
This marked a turning point for the Korean innovation system.   
...
So, in the early development process, the
government played the role not only of planner and rule setter but also of financier.
This was particularly true in the areas of R&D and innovation.

...
Private industries responded to the changes in policy by investing massive amounts
in R&D.


In Kenya, "Science Technology and Innovation" is a "key sector in Vision 2030.    Here is the relevant webpage:

http://www.vision2030.go.ke/sectors/?sc=3

Click on the links and see how science, technology, and innovation are about to be transformed in Kenya.     :D

Kenya also has the "Kenya Industrial Research and Development Institute (KIRDI), a national research institute established in 1979".  This institute supposedly also supports Vision 2030 and in fact has a lot to say on that.  So, what are they doing in an important area like ICT?   Here it is:

http://www.kirdi.go.ke/index.php/core-divisions/rti/ict-research

Not particularly informative; so I look elsewhere to try and find more on what exactly they are doing.   There is a "research, technology, and innovation" report here:

http://www.kirdi.go.ke/index.php/more/files/category/4-research-report

It is dated 2009.

KIRDI also makes available its Strategic Plan, here:

http://www.kirdi.go.ke/index.php/more/files/category/3-strategic-plan

Bizarre.   The things reads like the stuff companies issue as some sort of annual report or whatever, or the kind of fuzz people produce for funding bodies---not the strategic plan of a national R & D institute that will play a leading role in the industrial transformation of the country.

Page 17-18 has a list of the national research institute's "key achievements" for the period 2010-2015.   Here's a sample:

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* Supply of 840 Arc Welding Machines for use by the Constituency Industrial Development Centres (CIDCs);

* Completion of 150 hospital beds for distribution to hospitals in Kenya.

* Establishment and operationalization of honey processing plant in West Pokot
County.

* ...

WTF!  Seriously?   This is the R &D for Vision-2030 industrialization?  From a national R & D institute?

One of the things I was looking for in the report was anything to do with the ICT Research unit.   That unit does not appear to have achieved anything during 2010-2015.    I did, however, find a sentence on ICT:

"weakness: Low adoption of ICT in the Institute’s operations."

Still, plenty of good crap on Vision 2030.
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Re: H. E. Uhuru Kenyatta, PORK: Sobriety & Hilarity
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2017, 07:05:37 PM »
MOON Ki am sure there is a longer treatise and literature on the role of the private sector in the rise of South Korea and the Tigers. That is a story on the government.

Kenya's private sector is a joke. The private citizens - Wanjiku - have performed much worse than the state. Yet too many blunderers scapegoat Uhuru and Moi for their own absolute failure. I would be hard pressed to give the government 30% of the responsibility. If you are a D scoring tarmacker - the ugly duckling foundress of nothing - sorry Kibaki did not steal your fortune.
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