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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2017, 10:54:56 AM »
The suspension is so that they can stand with and support NASA supporters that have been maimed and killed by the murderous power hungry electoral fraudsters.

Nothing odd about this

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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2017, 11:03:23 AM »
And you think you're ready for secession :) if you cannot handle this.
The suspension is so that they can stand with and support NASA supporters that have been maimed and killed by the murderous power hungry electoral fraudsters.

Nothing odd about this

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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2017, 11:26:54 AM »
Indicative of hand to mouth situation all over Kenya. How to contain these underemployed masses who need to forage each hour is the elephant in the room across Africa in the next 100 years. One tomato is retailing at 10bob across Nairobi estates already!
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2017, 11:34:28 AM »
And you think you're ready for secession :) if you cannot handle this.
The suspension is so that they can stand with and support NASA supporters that have been maimed and killed by the murderous power hungry electoral fraudsters.

Nothing odd about this

Handle murderous electoral fraudsters?  Dude like Miguna said, the People defeated that Moi chap....Jubilee will be child's play.  They're already sweating after a few days of mungiki infiltrated demonstrations.

Secession is coming.  The people have a right to a corruption, tribalism and crime free nation.   

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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2017, 11:38:04 AM »
Indicative of hand to mouth situation all over Kenya. How to contain these underemployed masses who need to forage each hour is the elephant in the room across Africa in the next 100 years. One tomato is retailing at 10bob across Nairobi estates already!

This is the real story out there.  I know for a fact that I pay a lot less for a bag of sugar than my folks back in Endebess.  A stone's throw from Mumias... it's a travesty.

Yesterday in The Guardian:   The true cost of a plate of food: $1 in New York, $320 in South Sudan

Research reveals the stark inequality that drives the global hunger crisis, with the poorest people paying more than they earn in a day for a single meal

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The world’s poorest pay more than a day’s wages for a single plate of food, according to a report from the World Food Programme, which reveals that the same bean stew can cost the average consumer in New York just $1.20, while the price tag is more than $320 in South Sudan.

The research, released to coincide with World Food Day on Monday, underlines the sheer discrepancy of consumers’ purchasing power around the world by measuring the relative cost of food in various countries against a single baseline.
'I was so hungry I ate water lilies': southern Africa's food crisis in a dozen dishes
Read more

“By adjusting for purchasing power, we shine a stark light on inequalities in the affordability of food,” said WFP’s executive director, David Beasley. “The results are, in many cases, staggering: if you thought a meal was expensive in, say, Norway – well, try Malawi.”

Economists at WFP took a standard meal of beans and pulses, paired with a locally preferred carbohydrate such as rice or cassava, priced it on a local scale, then compared it with the average daily budget derived from national GDP per capita figures. Using this as a baseline, WFP was then able to determine how much an average person in New York state would have to pay for the stew if they spent the same proportion of their daily income as people in other countries.

That $1.20 (90p) plate of rice and beans in New York, which is just 0.6% of the New Yorker’s average daily income, costs $8.27 in Guatemala, $27.77 in Nepal, and $72.65 in Haiti.

In South Sudan, the worst-ranking country in the study, the meal costs $321.70, or 155% of a person’s daily wages.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/oct/16/the-true-cost-of-a-plate-of-food-new-york-south-sudan-global-hunger-crisis


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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2017, 11:48:27 AM »
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2017, 01:02:06 PM »
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.

Well, this is the old "Sisi sote ni wezi" argument.  It's no accident that most of the NASA doyens had a direct hand in drafting our beautiful constitution.  I think they'll live by it when they assume power.




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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2017, 01:21:48 PM »
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.

Well, this is the old "Sisi sote ni wezi" argument.  It's no accident that most of the NASA doyens had a direct hand in drafting our beautiful constitution.  I think they'll live by it when they assume power.

So you mean we have to follow him blindly and not question. The NASA principals have been in power and didn't live by it. Don't even start on Kalonzo & Madvd, I said Raila sold out before :

-Joined Kanu to succeed Moi
-Backed flawed katiba for cheap political score
-Etc

This is about his ambitions not Wanjiku.
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2017, 01:27:56 PM »
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.

Well, this is the old "Sisi sote ni wezi" argument.  It's no accident that most of the NASA doyens had a direct hand in drafting our beautiful constitution.  I think they'll live by it when they assume power.

So you mean we have to follow him blindly and not question. The NASA principals have been in power and didn't live by it. Don't even start on Kalonzo & Madvd, I said Raila sold out before :

-Joined Kanu to succeed Moi
-Backed flawed katiba for cheap political score
-Etc

This is about his ambitions not Wanjiku.

Well if Kibaki morphed from "Indestructible Mugumu tree" to democrat during his DP days leading to the victory in Dec 2002, then anything goes.  I must admit that I am suspicious of mega thief Weta and Anglo Leasing Mudamba.... I am actually surprised that Kalonzo hasn't legged it yet, so we may have indeed turned a corner.

I hang my hat on the beautiful constitution as non have been in power since promulgation.  Their conduct might be very different.  We already know what the thieving crew would do with it, and it's not that dangerous to allow others to show us what they have. 


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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2017, 01:32:53 PM »
It's a shame you have decide to reduce yourself to such silly arguments just to appear neutral.

The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2017, 01:33:20 PM »
IT’S DARKNESS AT NOON IN KENYA – AND IT WILL GET WORSE

By BARRACK MULUKA

A lot of stuff that is happening now should be seen within the context of the state trying to create an atmosphere of fear ahead of the repeat presidential poll. When you hear Jubilee vice chairman David Murathe say after the poll President Uhuru Kenyatta is going to be more brutal, ruthless and lethal, that is just the curtain raiser.

We are seeing the police killings, some people have been choreographed to say that NASA flagbearer Raila Odinga and his running mate should be taken to the ICC, police raids on citizens like Jimmy Wanjigi – all these things are curtain raisers to people being intimidated. What is going to happen is despite the protests by the opposition, the IEBC and Jubilee who are essentially on two sides of the same coin will treat Kenyans to some kind of election and Uhuru will be declared the winner. Thereafter, it will be a total clampdown on any dissenting voice and anybody who seems to be even remotely associated with sponsoring NASA.

We are actually seeing darkness at midday in Kenya. The culture of intimidation has come back and it is going to be on the rise. Kenyans must begin pressing up for very hard times. The opposition is not just going to stop because Uhuru has been declared President and inaugurated. It is not going to matter that the European Union has apparently given the IEBC the thumps up, the protests will also increase. The business community that is complaining had better talk to Uhuru and Jubilee and the IEBC – because it is going to be impossible for the opposition to live through another five years of a Presidency that has ascended to power in a controversial manner.

People like the EU are part of the Kenyan problem because they have closed their eyes to what is happening – such as the raids on Wanjigi’s homes and arrest orders for NASA chief executive officer Norman Magaya. The EU, the Diplomatic Corps and faith-based community have closed their eyes. In their own naïve way, they imagine that after the IEBC controversially declares Uhuru the President-elect, then normalcy will return and go back to business.

Unfortunately, this will not happen because the agitation for a free, fair and credible election will come in a crescendo. Anyone disillusioned that this kind of clampdown will shut up citizens is actually completely deceiving himself.

The writer is a political analyst
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2017, 01:33:38 PM »
bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?

If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 01:38:01 PM »
How are they silly?  Have you seen anti-corruption demos ever? Oh no, that would seal the sleaze loopholes and there would be nothing to fight for. The only loopholes worth sealing are the ones that deny Raila power.

It's a shame you have decide to reduce yourself to such silly arguments just to appear neutral.

The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 01:41:24 PM »
Seriously? Were you born yesterday?

bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?

If you actually believe Kenya would transforma under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2017, 01:45:39 PM »
Who was going around talking about NYS, Eurobond and all the corruptions in kenya and yet you still say that Jubilee and NASA are the same. I do not think you are serious anymore and worth even engaging.

How are they silly?  Have you seen anti-corruption demos ever? Oh no, that would seal the sleaze loopholes and there would be nothing to fight for. The only loopholes worth sealing are the ones that deny Raila power.

It's a shame you have decide to reduce yourself to such silly arguments just to appear neutral.

The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2017, 01:49:18 PM »
The only time we have violence and demos is when there is the question of power. Mega scandals attract a few press conferences and that's it. Without corrupt opportunities none would even fight for power hence the silent agreement to go slow on it.

Ati the demos are to liberate Wanjiku... by stopping corruption.

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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2017, 01:57:48 PM »
bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?

If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.


You do not believe the above do you?  Have you reviewed Uhuruto appointment schedule?  Have you seen the skewed "development"?  Cancellation of loans?  Coffee loans, illegal title deeds etc?


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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
IT’S DARKNESS AT NOON IN KENYA – AND IT WILL GET WORSE

By BARRACK MULUKA

A lot of stuff that is happening now should be seen within the context of the state trying to create an atmosphere of fear ahead of the repeat presidential poll. When you hear Jubilee vice chairman David Murathe say after the poll President Uhuru Kenyatta is going to be more brutal, ruthless and lethal, that is just the curtain raiser.

We are seeing the police killings, some people have been choreographed to say that NASA flagbearer Raila Odinga and his running mate should be taken to the ICC, police raids on citizens like Jimmy Wanjigi – all these things are curtain raisers to people being intimidated. What is going to happen is despite the protests by the opposition, the IEBC and Jubilee who are essentially on two sides of the same coin will treat Kenyans to some kind of election and Uhuru will be declared the winner. Thereafter, it will be a total clampdown on any dissenting voice and anybody who seems to be even remotely associated with sponsoring NASA.

We are actually seeing darkness at midday in Kenya. The culture of intimidation has come back and it is going to be on the rise. Kenyans must begin pressing up for very hard times. The opposition is not just going to stop because Uhuru has been declared President and inaugurated. It is not going to matter that the European Union has apparently given the IEBC the thumps up, the protests will also increase. The business community that is complaining had better talk to Uhuru and Jubilee and the IEBC – because it is going to be impossible for the opposition to live through another five years of a Presidency that has ascended to power in a controversial manner.

People like the EU are part of the Kenyan problem because they have closed their eyes to what is happening – such as the raids on Wanjigi’s homes and arrest orders for NASA chief executive officer Norman Magaya. The EU, the Diplomatic Corps and faith-based community have closed their eyes. In their own naïve way, they imagine that after the IEBC controversially declares Uhuru the President-elect, then normalcy will return and go back to business.

Unfortunately, this will not happen because the agitation for a free, fair and credible election will come in a crescendo. Anyone disillusioned that this kind of clampdown will shut up citizens is actually completely deceiving himself.

The writer is a political analyst
He’s a NASWA henchman
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Re: After epic failure as demo fatigue sets in - NASA call off today demo
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2017, 02:11:24 PM »
Looks like they are calling off demos indefinitely even after High Court lifted the ban.

From Babu’s latest statement

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Our protests will stay suspended...
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.