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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #100 on: June 15, 2026, 09:21:28 PM »
Yaani hesabu yako umejaribu and you didnt get +1 :)
This fail.
Redo 50% plus one.
Anyway let give few months Sifuna and we review if he has some 3 mcas.

🙂 You can't stomach reality.

Here. In fact Kikuyus are 21% of the registered voters. I gave them 17%.

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Malava and Mbeere 50-50 is ukora of kidnapping the opponents. Remove the ukora - you have Kisa and Kabuchai 70-30. That's the correct data to use not your wishful thinking. With Sifuna GenZ excitement it will be worse than that for Ruto.

Mbeere same nonsense.

So Luhya  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Mt Kenya East  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Luo we can say upinzani 30-70 Ruto
Mijikenda upinzani 30-70 Ruto

Rest we can be simplistic with broad brush give Ruto 100% Kalenjin + pastoralists. United opposition 100% Kikuyu, Kamba, Gusii.

Opposition
Kikuyu 21%
Kamba 10%
Gusii 5%
Luhya 9% (70% of 13%)
Luo 3% (30% of 9%)
MKE 4% (70% of 6%)
Mijikenda 2% (30% of 5%)
Total 53%

Ruto
Kalenjin 11%
Pastoralists + small tribes 21%
Mijikenda 4% (70% of 5%)
MKE 2% (30% of 6%)
Luhya  4% (30% of 13%)
Luo  6% (70% of 9%)
Total 47%

Source: Google Gemini summary of tribes by registered voters
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show these tribes/groups by registered voters in kenya. use the labels:
kikuyu as kikuyu,
meru + embu + tharaka nithi as mke
kamba as kamba
gusii as gusii
luhya as luhya
luo as luo
mijikenda as mijikenda
kalenjin as kalenjin
all other tribes as 'pastoralists, etc'
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You're mine
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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2026, 09:32:29 PM »

You realise even giving Ruto 100 % of Luo , North Eastern and Mijikenda . Still he cant beat the 50 %
The truth is that he wont even get a third of that vote .
Mathematically speaking there is no way Ruto is making it back.


Yaani hesabu yako umejaribu and you didnt get +1 :)
This fail.
Redo 50% plus one.
Anyway let give few months Sifuna and we review if he has some 3 mcas.

🙂 You can't stomach reality.

Here. In fact Kikuyus are 21% of the registered voters. I gave them 17%.

Quote
Malava and Mbeere 50-50 is ukora of kidnapping the opponents. Remove the ukora - you have Kisa and Kabuchai 70-30. That's the correct data to use not your wishful thinking. With Sifuna GenZ excitement it will be worse than that for Ruto.

Mbeere same nonsense.

So Luhya  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Mt Kenya East  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Luo we can say upinzani 30-70 Ruto
Mijikenda upinzani 30-70 Ruto

Rest we can be simplistic with broad brush give Ruto 100% Kalenjin + pastoralists. United opposition 100% Kikuyu, Kamba, Gusii.

Opposition
Kikuyu 21%
Kamba 10%
Gusii 5%
Luhya 9% (70% of 13%)
Luo 3% (30% of 9%)
MKE 4% (70% of 6%)
Mijikenda 2% (30% of 5%)
Total 53%

Ruto
Kalenjin 11%
Pastoralists + small tribes 21%
Mijikenda 4% (70% of 5%)
MKE 2% (30% of 6%)
Luhya  4% (30% of 13%)
Luo  6% (70% of 9%)
Total 47%

Source: Google Gemini summary of tribes by registered voters
prompt
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show these tribes/groups by registered voters in kenya. use the labels:
kikuyu as kikuyu,
meru + embu + tharaka nithi as mke
kamba as kamba
gusii as gusii
luhya as luhya
luo as luo
mijikenda as mijikenda
kalenjin as kalenjin
all other tribes as 'pastoralists, etc'

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #102 on: June 15, 2026, 09:52:06 PM »
If I give Ruto 100% Luo it is a tie 50-50.
If I add 100% Mijikenda Ruto wins by 52%

I think you are wrong asserting that Ruto cannot win.
In my eyes there are 2 big factors:

1. Opposition unity. If they break Ruto wins or run-off.

2. Iran war aka inflation. They have signed MOU but I see a high likelihood of round 3 showdown.

The rest of the game I think is largely settled.


You realise even giving Ruto 100 % of Luo , North Eastern and Mijikenda . Still he cant beat the 50 %
The truth is that he wont even get a third of that vote .
Mathematically speaking there is no way Ruto is making it back.


Yaani hesabu yako umejaribu and you didnt get +1 :)
This fail.
Redo 50% plus one.
Anyway let give few months Sifuna and we review if he has some 3 mcas.

🙂 You can't stomach reality.

Here. In fact Kikuyus are 21% of the registered voters. I gave them 17%.

Quote
Malava and Mbeere 50-50 is ukora of kidnapping the opponents. Remove the ukora - you have Kisa and Kabuchai 70-30. That's the correct data to use not your wishful thinking. With Sifuna GenZ excitement it will be worse than that for Ruto.

Mbeere same nonsense.

So Luhya  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Mt Kenya East  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Luo we can say upinzani 30-70 Ruto
Mijikenda upinzani 30-70 Ruto

Rest we can be simplistic with broad brush give Ruto 100% Kalenjin + pastoralists. United opposition 100% Kikuyu, Kamba, Gusii.

Opposition
Kikuyu 21%
Kamba 10%
Gusii 5%
Luhya 9% (70% of 13%)
Luo 3% (30% of 9%)
MKE 4% (70% of 6%)
Mijikenda 2% (30% of 5%)
Total 53%

Ruto
Kalenjin 11%
Pastoralists + small tribes 21%
Mijikenda 4% (70% of 5%)
MKE 2% (30% of 6%)
Luhya  4% (30% of 13%)
Luo  6% (70% of 9%)
Total 47%

Source: Google Gemini summary of tribes by registered voters
prompt
Quote
show these tribes/groups by registered voters in kenya. use the labels:
kikuyu as kikuyu,
meru + embu + tharaka nithi as mke
kamba as kamba
gusii as gusii
luhya as luhya
luo as luo
mijikenda as mijikenda
kalenjin as kalenjin
all other tribes as 'pastoralists, etc'
"I'm Yours
You're mine
Like Paradise  ~ song by Sade https://tinyurl.com/yc5hvdc8

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #103 on: June 16, 2026, 09:49:58 AM »
Okay let go with your figures for comedy sake.
Correct Kalenjin are not 11%; they are giant when it comes to voting; pop ni kama 13%; but weka hapo 15% hapo kwa voting coz they turn out really well every election; Ruto hit 51% sio?
Kikuyus pop is declining; and without candidate; expect turnout to drop from 70% to 60%;

Yaani hesabu yako umejaribu and you didnt get +1 :)
This fail.
Redo 50% plus one.
Anyway let give few months Sifuna and we review if he has some 3 mcas.

🙂 You can't stomach reality.

Here. In fact Kikuyus are 21% of the registered voters. I gave them 17%.

Quote
Malava and Mbeere 50-50 is ukora of kidnapping the opponents. Remove the ukora - you have Kisa and Kabuchai 70-30. That's the correct data to use not your wishful thinking. With Sifuna GenZ excitement it will be worse than that for Ruto.

Mbeere same nonsense.

So Luhya  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Mt Kenya East  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Luo we can say upinzani 30-70 Ruto
Mijikenda upinzani 30-70 Ruto

Rest we can be simplistic with broad brush give Ruto 100% Kalenjin + pastoralists. United opposition 100% Kikuyu, Kamba, Gusii.

Opposition
Kikuyu 21%
Kamba 10%
Gusii 5%
Luhya 9% (70% of 13%)
Luo 3% (30% of 9%)
MKE 4% (70% of 6%)
Mijikenda 2% (30% of 5%)
Total 53%

Ruto
Kalenjin 11%
Pastoralists + small tribes 21%
Mijikenda 4% (70% of 5%)
MKE 2% (30% of 6%)
Luhya  4% (30% of 13%)
Luo  6% (70% of 9%)
Total 47%

Source: Google Gemini summary of tribes by registered voters
prompt
Quote
show these tribes/groups by registered voters in kenya. use the labels:
kikuyu as kikuyu,
meru + embu + tharaka nithi as mke
kamba as kamba
gusii as gusii
luhya as luhya
luo as luo
mijikenda as mijikenda
kalenjin as kalenjin
all other tribes as 'pastoralists, etc'


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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #104 on: June 16, 2026, 09:54:10 AM »
United opposition ndio ngumu because we have really 2-3 big position.
Expecting Kikuyu, Luhya, Gusii and Kambas to be all happy when they will miss PORK or DPORK ndio ujinga.
Kikuyus maybe will be angry enough to forgo PORK and DPORK
But what will paper tiger Matiangi take to Gusii without PORK or DPORK - maybe PM?
What about Sifuna?

Yote tisa Ruto team is already at 50% plus one before opposition decide on a line up.

Ruto is aiming at 60% - by just getting more luhyas, gusii, kikuyus, kambas, mijikenda

If I give Ruto 100% Luo it is a tie 50-50.
If I add 100% Mijikenda Ruto wins by 52%

I think you are wrong asserting that Ruto cannot win.
In my eyes there are 2 big factors:

1. Opposition unity. If they break Ruto wins or run-off.

2. Iran war aka inflation. They have signed MOU but I see a high likelihood of round 3 showdown.

The rest of the game I think is largely settled.


You realise even giving Ruto 100 % of Luo , North Eastern and Mijikenda . Still he cant beat the 50 %
The truth is that he wont even get a third of that vote .
Mathematically speaking there is no way Ruto is making it back.


Yaani hesabu yako umejaribu and you didnt get +1 :)
This fail.
Redo 50% plus one.
Anyway let give few months Sifuna and we review if he has some 3 mcas.

🙂 You can't stomach reality.

Here. In fact Kikuyus are 21% of the registered voters. I gave them 17%.

Quote
Malava and Mbeere 50-50 is ukora of kidnapping the opponents. Remove the ukora - you have Kisa and Kabuchai 70-30. That's the correct data to use not your wishful thinking. With Sifuna GenZ excitement it will be worse than that for Ruto.

Mbeere same nonsense.

So Luhya  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Mt Kenya East  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Luo we can say upinzani 30-70 Ruto
Mijikenda upinzani 30-70 Ruto

Rest we can be simplistic with broad brush give Ruto 100% Kalenjin + pastoralists. United opposition 100% Kikuyu, Kamba, Gusii.

Opposition
Kikuyu 21%
Kamba 10%
Gusii 5%
Luhya 9% (70% of 13%)
Luo 3% (30% of 9%)
MKE 4% (70% of 6%)
Mijikenda 2% (30% of 5%)
Total 53%

Ruto
Kalenjin 11%
Pastoralists + small tribes 21%
Mijikenda 4% (70% of 5%)
MKE 2% (30% of 6%)
Luhya  4% (30% of 13%)
Luo  6% (70% of 9%)
Total 47%

Source: Google Gemini summary of tribes by registered voters
prompt
Quote
show these tribes/groups by registered voters in kenya. use the labels:
kikuyu as kikuyu,
meru + embu + tharaka nithi as mke
kamba as kamba
gusii as gusii
luhya as luhya
luo as luo
mijikenda as mijikenda
kalenjin as kalenjin
all other tribes as 'pastoralists, etc'

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #105 on: June 16, 2026, 09:55:52 AM »
Omtatah Nowayhaha,

Can you refute my rough numbers there? Or RV Pundit's MOAS.
It's okay we will tolerate your broken English. 🙂
Bora numbers badala ya kelele.

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #106 on: June 16, 2026, 10:17:17 AM »
You don't need to be a pundit to discern the lineup:

PORK Kalonzo
DPORK Matiang'i
PM RiggyG
Speakers, super-CS Eugene, other Luhya. Maybe Sifuna.

Babu will be unopposed for Nairobi governor as Wiper or whatever. Sifuna gets whatever position he chooses outside big 3. If Ruto vs Kalonzo are still neck&neck, Sifuna can hedge by senator unopposed.

Luhya will punch below their weight by having split loyalty as usual. Ruto keeps  MaDVD as PM and Weta speaker. Contradiction it's Weta baiting Bukusu with 2032 🙂 -- his own grandkids don't buy that. Kwani how many people will Ruto endorse in 2032?

Weta, Mbadi, Kindiki, Joho 🤔🥲

Huo ndio ujinga.

United opposition ndio ngumu because we have really 2-3 big position.
Expecting Kikuyu, Luhya, Gusii and Kambas to be all happy when they will miss PORK or DPORK ndio ujinga.
Kikuyus maybe will be angry enough to forgo PORK and DPORK
But what will paper tiger Matiangi take to Gusii without PORK or DPORK - maybe PM?
What about Sifuna?

Yote tisa Ruto team is already at 50% plus one before opposition decide on a line up.

Ruto is aiming at 60% - by just getting more luhyas, gusii, kikuyus, kambas, mijikenda
"I'm Yours
You're mine
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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #107 on: June 16, 2026, 11:28:28 AM »
You are wrong on many aspects
Luo wont vote for Ruto 100% and even in the voting it will be marred by low voter turn out
Ruto wont get 100% Mijikenda -He faired pretty badly in 2022 .  Actually a KANU 2002 will happen where he might even perform worse than he did in 2022.
Similarly in North Eastern Ruto performed poorly in 2022 compared to Uhuru in 2017 /2013 . Remember when we talk of North Eastern we mean Isiolo , Marsabit , Wajir , Mandera , Garissa and TanaRiver. That tells you its not possible for any side to win this 100 % . First between themselves there is Rivalry , tribal snd Clan rivalry secondly there is regional parties which hold sway .

As for the factors the 2 you mentioned are not
Biggest factors will be voter registration and voter turn out .
Economic factors already destroyed Rutos legitimacy
And forget the notion that Ruto can inherit Railas base . Even Raila in 2007 couldnt fully inherit Mois base . Kibaki won North Eastern and went toe to toe with Raila in Mijikenda , Kalonzo ran away with Kamba and Kibaki gave him a run of money there .
Now take into consideration Ruto has been considered a Villain for 20 years in Railas stronghold a person born 18 years ago eligible to vote will need a lot of brainwashing and convincing to do so . Reason Raila couldnt win in Mt Kenya even with Uhurus support .


If I give Ruto 100% Luo it is a tie 50-50.
If I add 100% Mijikenda Ruto wins by 52%

I think you are wrong asserting that Ruto cannot win.
In my eyes there are 2 big factors:

1. Opposition unity. If they break Ruto wins or run-off.

2. Iran war aka inflation. They have signed MOU but I see a high likelihood of round 3 showdown.

The rest of the game I think is largely settled.


You realise even giving Ruto 100 % of Luo , North Eastern and Mijikenda . Still he cant beat the 50 %
The truth is that he wont even get a third of that vote .
Mathematically speaking there is no way Ruto is making it back.


Yaani hesabu yako umejaribu and you didnt get +1 :)
This fail.
Redo 50% plus one.
Anyway let give few months Sifuna and we review if he has some 3 mcas.

🙂 You can't stomach reality.

Here. In fact Kikuyus are 21% of the registered voters. I gave them 17%.

Quote
Malava and Mbeere 50-50 is ukora of kidnapping the opponents. Remove the ukora - you have Kisa and Kabuchai 70-30. That's the correct data to use not your wishful thinking. With Sifuna GenZ excitement it will be worse than that for Ruto.

Mbeere same nonsense.

So Luhya  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Mt Kenya East  upinzani 70-30 Ruto
Luo we can say upinzani 30-70 Ruto
Mijikenda upinzani 30-70 Ruto

Rest we can be simplistic with broad brush give Ruto 100% Kalenjin + pastoralists. United opposition 100% Kikuyu, Kamba, Gusii.

Opposition
Kikuyu 21%
Kamba 10%
Gusii 5%
Luhya 9% (70% of 13%)
Luo 3% (30% of 9%)
MKE 4% (70% of 6%)
Mijikenda 2% (30% of 5%)
Total 53%

Ruto
Kalenjin 11%
Pastoralists + small tribes 21%
Mijikenda 4% (70% of 5%)
MKE 2% (30% of 6%)
Luhya  4% (30% of 13%)
Luo  6% (70% of 9%)
Total 47%

Source: Google Gemini summary of tribes by registered voters
prompt
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show these tribes/groups by registered voters in kenya. use the labels:
kikuyu as kikuyu,
meru + embu + tharaka nithi as mke
kamba as kamba
gusii as gusii
luhya as luhya
luo as luo
mijikenda as mijikenda
kalenjin as kalenjin
all other tribes as 'pastoralists, etc'

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #108 on: June 16, 2026, 11:47:56 AM »

You are back to your Pre-2022 default settings of wishful thinking and self deceit .
This time around Pundit has joined your bandwagon .
Lets be candid with each other . Why Ruto created broadbased  Govt was to survive till 2027 with expectation he would lure Raila to AU post and in return Raila give him support in 2027 . Unfortunately 3 things happened .

1. Raila lost AU
2. Raila passed on
3. Raila post 2022 base revolted.

You and Pundit automatically equates Raila passing to Ruto inheriting his base . Totally wrong calculations .

We live in Kenya and we hear what is on ground . Raila had 2 bases , the one which made him and the one he made .
The one which made him was pre-2002 less in numbers and consists of old people and majority has left . The one he made in post 2002
This one is multi ethnic and consists of younger generation . This is the one that revolted against Broadbased Govt and now supporting Sifuna . Simple because they dont want anything to do with Ruto from the word go . Coz they have seen him as a Villain in the most time of their existence.

It has been made worse by the fact that Raila is nolonger there to give them direction But you Robina and pundit think you can give them direction . Self Deceit





Omtatah Nowayhaha,

Can you refute my rough numbers there? Or RV Pundit's MOAS.
It's okay we will tolerate your broken English. 🙂
Bora numbers badala ya kelele.

Ati sisi tunajenga nchi,
Wewe walowa minofu na mvinyo;-- vizizi kibindoni.

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #109 on: June 16, 2026, 12:01:15 PM »
Well, this lineup iko phantom.
You have line up that totally ignore the opposition maestro Gachagua - and his interest.
One thing, kikuyus will not take anything less than DPORK or PORK,
Second thing, Sifuna the internet guy will take anything less PORK OR DPORK
NIS seem to be working on Sifuna ego kabisa.
Look like we might have two oppositon camps; Sifuna camp of young leaders; Kalonzo camp of old leader; kenyatta has his camp; Gachagau has his camp;

United opposition might be mirage - given the many interest there.

For KK - Ruto will not change the team - everyone will keep their current job. If he need to bring opposition leaders like who -? Matiangi? Sifuna? Gachagua - they will be given CSs.

Anyway we are discusssing theories.

You don't need to be a pundit to discern the lineup:

PORK Kalonzo
DPORK Matiang'i
PM RiggyG
Speakers, super-CS Eugene, other Luhya. Maybe Sifuna.

Babu will be unopposed for Nairobi governor as Wiper or whatever. Sifuna gets whatever position he chooses outside big 3. If Ruto vs Kalonzo are still neck&neck, Sifuna can hedge by senator unopposed.

Luhya will punch below their weight by having split loyalty as usual. Ruto keeps  MaDVD as PM and Weta speaker. Contradiction it's Weta baiting Bukusu with 2032 🙂 -- his own grandkids don't buy that. Kwani how many people will Ruto endorse in 2032?

Weta, Mbadi, Kindiki, Joho 🤔🥲

Huo ndio ujinga.

United opposition ndio ngumu because we have really 2-3 big position.
Expecting Kikuyu, Luhya, Gusii and Kambas to be all happy when they will miss PORK or DPORK ndio ujinga.
Kikuyus maybe will be angry enough to forgo PORK and DPORK
But what will paper tiger Matiangi take to Gusii without PORK or DPORK - maybe PM?
What about Sifuna?

Yote tisa Ruto team is already at 50% plus one before opposition decide on a line up.

Ruto is aiming at 60% - by just getting more luhyas, gusii, kikuyus, kambas, mijikenda

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2026, 12:04:23 PM »
Never forget tribe when discussing kenya politics.
Luos will vote one way - with Ruto unless something drastic happen.
Rest of small tribes from Mijikenda, Somalis, Iteso - name them - have seen a different Ruto - Ruto who is Raila heir in discrimination/bla bla.
Ruto messaging in 2027 is definitely along 41 v 1 - anti-kikuyu propaganda - clothed in nice words - except it it will sting and bite in many areas.

For now  I advice you to watch the leaders - MCA to Governors - they listen to the ground.

As we approach 2027 - they will give you the proper signals. This is not 2023 - this 2026 mid - and listening to the ground is everything.

Kikuyu leadership will definitely abandon Ruto one by one - we are seeing it happen. The ground is too hostile for UDA/KK there.

Our opinion polling iko down.


You are back to your Pre-2022 default settings of wishful thinking and self deceit .
This time around Pundit has joined your bandwagon .
Lets be candid with each other . Why Ruto created broadbased  Govt was to survive till 2027 with expectation he would lure Raila to AU post and in return Raila give him support in 2027 . Unfortunately 3 things happened .

1. Raila lost AU
2. Raila passed on
3. Raila post 2022 base revolted.

You and Pundit automatically equates Raila passing to Ruto inheriting his base . Totally wrong calculations .

We live in Kenya and we hear what is on ground . Raila had 2 bases , the one which made him and the one he made .
The one which made him was pre-2002 less in numbers and consists of old people and majority has left . The one he made in post 2002
This one is multi ethnic and consists of younger generation . This is the one that revolted against Broadbased Govt and now supporting Sifuna . Simple because they dont want anything to do with Ruto from the word go . Coz they have seen him as a Villain in the most time of their existence.

It has been made worse by the fact that Raila is nolonger there to give them direction But you Robina and pundit think you can give them direction . Self Deceit





Omtatah Nowayhaha,

Can you refute my rough numbers there? Or RV Pundit's MOAS.
It's okay we will tolerate your broken English. 🙂
Bora numbers badala ya kelele.

Ati sisi tunajenga nchi,
Wewe walowa minofu na mvinyo;-- vizizi kibindoni.

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #111 on: June 17, 2026, 10:45:22 AM »
Raila supporters said the same in 2022 because Uhuru is with Raila GEMA will vote ror Raila , the opposite happened . In Kenyan politics remember previous alignments especially after 2010 constitution ……
Tell me why Didnt Raila defeat Ruto in GEMA 2022 when he had support of Uhuru their Kingpin based on 2013 /17 election results ?


Never forget tribe when discussing kenya politics.
Luos will vote one way - with Ruto unless something drastic happen.
Rest of small tribes from Mijikenda, Somalis, Iteso - name them - have seen a different Ruto - Ruto who is Raila heir in discrimination/bla bla.
Ruto messaging in 2027 is definitely along 41 v 1 - anti-kikuyu propaganda - clothed in nice words - except it it will sting and bite in many areas.

For now  I advice you to watch the leaders - MCA to Governors - they listen to the ground.

As we approach 2027 - they will give you the proper signals. This is not 2023 - this 2026 mid - and listening to the ground is everything.

Kikuyu leadership will definitely abandon Ruto one by one - we are seeing it happen. The ground is too hostile for UDA/KK there.

Our opinion polling iko down.


You are back to your Pre-2022 default settings of wishful thinking and self deceit .
This time around Pundit has joined your bandwagon .
Lets be candid with each other . Why Ruto created broadbased  Govt was to survive till 2027 with expectation he would lure Raila to AU post and in return Raila give him support in 2027 . Unfortunately 3 things happened .

1. Raila lost AU
2. Raila passed on
3. Raila post 2022 base revolted.

You and Pundit automatically equates Raila passing to Ruto inheriting his base . Totally wrong calculations .

We live in Kenya and we hear what is on ground . Raila had 2 bases , the one which made him and the one he made .
The one which made him was pre-2002 less in numbers and consists of old people and majority has left . The one he made in post 2002
This one is multi ethnic and consists of younger generation . This is the one that revolted against Broadbased Govt and now supporting Sifuna . Simple because they dont want anything to do with Ruto from the word go . Coz they have seen him as a Villain in the most time of their existence.

It has been made worse by the fact that Raila is nolonger there to give them direction But you Robina and pundit think you can give them direction . Self Deceit





Omtatah Nowayhaha,

Can you refute my rough numbers there? Or RV Pundit's MOAS.
It's okay we will tolerate your broken English. 🙂
Bora numbers badala ya kelele.

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #112 on: June 17, 2026, 10:54:24 AM »
I wrote about 2022 to death.
Uhuru is one lazy drunkard who did very little to really campaign for Raila.
Still Raila got 20% versus 80% of GEMA.
Uhuru never took Raila to central.
Best he did was to take select kikuyus to Sagana and tell them Ruto sio mzuri.

Uhuru needed to answer few serious questions in GEMA to win them over - one of most serious-
1) why Raila, why not Ruto, what has Ruto done, because Ruto stayed very humble - mumbling Ruto ni mbaya or mwizi - cant be answer when Raila ni mbaya murogi etc
2) the fate of GEMA diaspora in RV if they betray Kalenjin - given jubilee was peace pact btw kalenjin & kikuyu  (btw for kikuyu diaspora - you see them reluctant to join DCP - all Nakuru Mps bar naivasha are in UDA - because again they fear what their fate will be if kalenjin attack them- so Gathietha need to face them and tell them itakuwa sawa or you will suffer)

He never had honest conversation with them

Now I see opposition depending on the same LAZY MLEVI nacheka yangu.

Raila supporters said the same in 2022 because Uhuru is with Raila GEMA will vote ror Raila , the opposite happened . In Kenyan politics remember previous alignments especially after 2010 constitution ……
Tell me why Didnt Raila defeat Ruto in GEMA 2022 when he had support of Uhuru their Kingpin based on 2013 /17 election results ?

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #113 on: June 17, 2026, 11:08:11 AM »

I was also here and wrote about it . We were on the same page , atleast then you were realistic now you are not .
Same notion as it were then GEMA base didnt shift to Raila with Uhurus support , Raila base wont shift to Ruto with Railas demise
Its shifter to Sifuna reason Raila spent 20 years fighting GEMA same here Ruto spent 20 years fighting Raila and you expect the base to support him…….Wishful thinking ………
Reality will hit you hard come next year August if Ruto survives till then and you will claim its a fluke……

I wrote about 2022 to death.
Uhuru is one lazy drunkard who did very little to really campaign for Raila.
Still Raila got 20% versus 80% of GEMA.
Uhuru never took Raila to central.
Best he did was to take select kikuyus to Sagana and tell them Ruto sio mzuri.

Uhuru needed to answer few serious questions in GEMA to win them over - one of most serious-
1) why Raila, why not Ruto, what has Ruto done, because Ruto stayed very humble - mumbling Ruto ni mbaya or mwizi - cant be answer when Raila ni mbaya murogi etc
2) the fate of GEMA diaspora in RV if they betray Kalenjin - given jubilee was peace pact btw kalenjin & kikuyu  (btw for kikuyu diaspora - you see them reluctant to join DCP - all Nakuru Mps bar naivasha are in UDA - because again they fear what their fate will be if kalenjin attack them- so Gathietha need to face them and tell them itakuwa sawa or you will suffer)

He never had honest conversation with them

Now I see opposition depending on the same LAZY MLEVI nacheka yangu.

Raila supporters said the same in 2022 because Uhuru is with Raila GEMA will vote ror Raila , the opposite happened . In Kenyan politics remember previous alignments especially after 2010 constitution ……
Tell me why Didnt Raila defeat Ruto in GEMA 2022 when he had support of Uhuru their Kingpin based on 2013 /17 election results ?

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #114 on: June 17, 2026, 11:32:31 AM »
Anything can change.
Ruto was ICC pariah.
Today he is G7
Just 10yrs ago.
Raila could have been sold with good salesman.
Kikuyus wanted Ruto dead in 2008
2022 they were killing for him to be president.
Now they regret - due to Gachagua narrative.
Kila kitu can be sold.
You just need gifted salesman like Ruto.
Uhuru knows no politics.
Matiangi ndio huyu amewaste wakisii with silly hope - now ni Sifuna time

I was also here and wrote about it . We were on the same page , atleast then you were realistic now you are not .
Same notion as it were then GEMA base didnt shift to Raila with Uhurus support , Raila base wont shift to Ruto with Railas demise
Its shifter to Sifuna reason Raila spent 20 years fighting GEMA same here Ruto spent 20 years fighting Raila and you expect the base to support him…….Wishful thinking ………
Reality will hit you hard come next year August if Ruto survives till then and you will claim its a fluke……

I wrote about 2022 to death.
Uhuru is one lazy drunkard who did very little to really campaign for Raila.
Still Raila got 20% versus 80% of GEMA.
Uhuru never took Raila to central.
Best he did was to take select kikuyus to Sagana and tell them Ruto sio mzuri.

Uhuru needed to answer few serious questions in GEMA to win them over - one of most serious-
1) why Raila, why not Ruto, what has Ruto done, because Ruto stayed very humble - mumbling Ruto ni mbaya or mwizi - cant be answer when Raila ni mbaya murogi etc
2) the fate of GEMA diaspora in RV if they betray Kalenjin - given jubilee was peace pact btw kalenjin & kikuyu  (btw for kikuyu diaspora - you see them reluctant to join DCP - all Nakuru Mps bar naivasha are in UDA - because again they fear what their fate will be if kalenjin attack them- so Gathietha need to face them and tell them itakuwa sawa or you will suffer)

He never had honest conversation with them

Now I see opposition depending on the same LAZY MLEVI nacheka yangu.

Raila supporters said the same in 2022 because Uhuru is with Raila GEMA will vote ror Raila , the opposite happened . In Kenyan politics remember previous alignments especially after 2010 constitution ……
Tell me why Didnt Raila defeat Ruto in GEMA 2022 when he had support of Uhuru their Kingpin based on 2013 /17 election results ?

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #115 on: June 25, 2026, 04:08:09 PM »
Kalonzo exposed. Amewacha old women to hang dry :D
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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #116 on: July 06, 2026, 01:12:45 PM »
Sifuna is overtaking Kalonzo.

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« Reply #117 on: July 07, 2026, 08:55:54 PM »
It's beginning to look like Sifuna-Methu as you said.
Hmm nope. Looks like Sifuna is about to be another Masinde Muliro or Kijana Wamalwa. If he rounds Luhya wote including Busia, Vihiga and Moi's Bridge.

Then he becomes Kalonzo DPORK and they hang Ruto.

I believe that's the current plan but we'll see. Ol Kalou will tell us. Although personally I'd have preferred they do a joint United Opposition rally on July 14. Sifuna, Riggy, Kalonzo, Matiang'i, etc.
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« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2026, 10:20:52 AM »
It's beginning to look like Sifuna-Methu as you said.
Hmm nope. Looks like Sifuna is about to be another Masinde Muliro or Kijana Wamalwa. If he rounds Luhya wote including Busia, Vihiga and Moi's Bridge.

Then he becomes Kalonzo DPORK and they hang Ruto.

I believe that's the current plan but we'll see. Ol Kalou will tell us. Although personally I'd have preferred they do a joint United Opposition rally on July 14. Sifuna, Riggy, Kalonzo, Matiang'i, etc.

Sifuna is good. He seems like a guy who smokes bang and changaa like Methu. They can make a 20 year pact. Sifuna Kumi. Methu kumi.

Be they time methu is 45 in 2037,He will be polished and ready to be PORK.

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Re: Decision 2027-Kalonzo Musyoka-6TH President of Kenya (2027-2032)
« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2026, 05:27:53 AM »
It's beginning to look like Sifuna-Methu as you said.
Hmm nope. Looks like Sifuna is about to be another Masinde Muliro or Kijana Wamalwa. If he rounds Luhya wote including Busia, Vihiga and Moi's Bridge.

Then he becomes Kalonzo DPORK and they hang Ruto.

I believe that's the current plan but we'll see. Ol Kalou will tell us. Although personally I'd have preferred they do a joint United Opposition rally on July 14. Sifuna, Riggy, Kalonzo, Matiang'i, etc.

Sifuna is good. He seems like a guy who smokes bang and changaa like Methu. They can make a 20 year pact. Sifuna Kumi. Methu kumi.

Be they time methu is 45 in 2037,He will be polished and ready to be PORK.
Broke people don't become Presidents in Kenya. Moi was Vice President, Minister, and wealthy Tycoon for years before he became President, Kibaki was Vice President and Minister for years with good chunks of money, Uhuru was super wealthy and Had Ruto's strategy and millions to be President. Ruto was deputy President with bottomless pockets for years before he became president. People like Methu and Sifuna will start their real game in 2037-2042. Kalonzo is not letting this time go. If Kalonzo is not torchbearer, every Kamba will vote Ruto to a man just to punish folk! If Kalonzo is the torchbearer, as always, he will lose elections by millions to WSR
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